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Very very cramped engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had actually already figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek post, that I didn't make clear ... my negative In reply to spitfirebill: I included that factor since when I needed to discover a substitute 4.9 for my F150, I had to go through each in every junkyard in South Jersey to discover one that wasn't sludged up truly terribly.
Bernie: Which is a much better van, while we're going to speak regarding a few issues of these vans, however I I'm plainly not going to come out and say one is better than the other. Bernie: Well, they're essentially the same lorry.
Mark: So, well, allow's begin with engines then. Let's talk concerning engine and in fact just to specify that the version years, we're going to start from 2000 and up, you understand, I mean, these vans have actually been around for a long time.
And, you know, for a variation of a Chevy van has been around since, you understand, around that time also. We're not going to obtain back right into, right into the earlier stuff. Considering that 2000, I suggest, Ford's, you can obtain these with V6 engines or V8s. V8s are much extra popular and I wouldn't really recommend a V6 engine.
You understand, Fords, and most of them come with the Triton V8. There's a great deal of issues with these engines. In the earlier 2000 ignition system with impact to these engines, due to the fact that they didn't have sufficient threading in the spark plug, which triggered troubles. And commonly that would certainly take place when you could be in a 15 traveler bus going up a hill with a load of individuals and all of an unexpected boom, an ignition system pops out and you're stranded.
If you're buying anything from probably 08 and more recent, you're not going to have that kind of spark plug concerns. Other locations though, with the Fords that we see, consumption manifolds will certainly leakage, they'll establish coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold typically you need to change the entire point.
And there's some issues, the Ford engine I need to say in their favour, because I'm speaking about issues, it's a more advanced engine. Overhead webcam, so you're obtaining even more power and performance out of the engine than you would certainly on a Chevy, which is a less complex layout with press rods.
They're simply really respectable, sturdy, solid engines. You recognize, being a van, of training course, you know, doing any kind of solution on them is more complicated because you have actually got to eliminate that cover and obtain right into maintenance in unusual methods. However things like stimulate plugs last an awful long period of time, so they do not require to be replaced really often.
Mark: Can you get these vans with diesel motor? Bernie: You can and we do service a few of them. I can not consider if we have actually ever done a Chevy, but Chevy, they're offered from 2006 to 16 with a Duramax diesel. The Fords have actually had diesels in them for a lengthy time, like way back before the 2000 version year.
You recognize, that's still available. If you're a say, I don't recognize, I'm just going to claim a plumbing professional and you've obtained like a great deal of heavyweight inside your van and you're hauling a trailer behind it, that would certainly be a truly great usage of having a diesel powered van.
In all justness, it appears like the diesels are, they seem to have much less problems in vans than they carry out in the vehicles. Probably since they aren't worked so hard, however when things take place, they're really costly to repair. We've obtained a lot of video clips and information concerning diesels, specifically the Fords.
You actually require to believe two times about obtaining a diesel in a van. And I will claim, Chevy is pretty a lot restricted to V8 engines, however Ford has a V 10 engine as well, which is an impressive gas wolfing engine.
If you're, and once again, we're simply speaking about kind of a straight, regular cargo van right here. The diesel absolutely isn't the very best option. Look at your objective, your use, just how much weight you're carrying which'll help you make the decision. Mark: What regarding the transmission et cetera of the drive train? Bernie: They're practically equal.
One point that we haven't discussed here is what type of van. These vans are, and it relies on what model, they're available ever before from half lot to one ton chassis and in fact several of the cutaway vans are in fact a lot more long lasting, like, you recognize, 450s and 550s for say the Fords.
Bernie: You understand, I'm going to provide the side to Ford on this one. And the factor for Ford is that it's a little simpler.
There's less steering link associated with a Chevy. There are less components to put on out. They do a round joints that break. Do Chevy's, but it seems, and the Chevy's probably last a little bit longer than the Fords, but the, you know, the steering linkage is a lot less complex, so there's less components and much less items to wear out.
The ride in a Ford is most likely a bit extra truck like however I do not know if you 'd actually ever truly discovered a difference in between both. It seems like their parts are a little tougher on the Ford than the Chevy. Mark: What about brakes? Bernie: Brakes are virtually the same, yet I will say that it feels like with Fords, the means they build their brake calipers, that they often tend to need to be changed nearly every time you do a brake work.
For one reason or another, they appear to last for one brake task. And afterwards a great deal of times we take the brakes off and say, Oh, the dirt boots torn, and so the caliper needs to be replaced. So I believe on a Ford and you can expect to spend a little bit more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm mosting likely to swerve back before the 2000 model years, there were some Chevy vans that had really negative doors. I imply, the gliding doors were crap, you know, truly severely constructed. In fact, I would say that if you are also taking a look at something older, it appears like Chevy and GMC vans actually and their trucks in general actually took a jump forward in high quality around the 2000 model year, due to the fact that there was a whole lot of stuff where the brakes as an example would not last very long at all.
If we're looking at the 2000 more recent, I suggest, I would certainly say they're both most likely rather much matching in top quality, fit and coating, you understand, some of the traveler vans, of program we'll have better appointments than the freight vans. I can't state that one of them stands out to me a bit more than the other.
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